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Cable Park meeting with Hood River Port Commission tonight
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good think you type with your hands rather than your feet! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isuckbars wrote:
jsampiero wrote:
I've never been called a narcissist. Here, anyways. Women at the bar call me arrogant all the time, but that's a bit damn different than a narcissist.


Sorry, but thou dost contradict oneself. Yer entire livelyhood is narcissistic. case in point --> http://www.youneedjosh.com/

The Arrogant/Overt Narcissist

When a person with the arrogant variety of Narcissistic Personality Disorder loses, is criticized, or is contradicted, he or she experiences strong negative reactions, which they may then display to others. However, the person with NPD generally strives to appear cool and calm, as if the experience meant little to them. Overt responses an arrogant narcissist might display range from dismissal and minimizing of the criticism, to verbal counterattacks, or revengeful plans or actions. In more severe cases, episodes of depression, psychosomatic reactions or syndromes, periodic substance abuse, or suicidal ideations or actions may occur.

Hey that description fits your own post pretty well Laughing A website demonstrating what one does for a living in order to get people to hire them to do those things hardly seem narcissistic...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the cable park was a distraction. All they wanted was the hotel, and while everyone argued about the cable park, the hotel slipped in with hardly a comment.
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jota



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No shit - I called that at the beginning.

And meanwhile the County snuck in and clearcut Seven Streams with nary a hint of opposition.
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mikephillips2011



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgold wrote:
I think the cable park was a distraction. All they wanted was the hotel, and while everyone argued about the cable park, the hotel slipped in with hardly a comment.

You are 100% correct.

They always wanted a hotel surrounded with taxpayer funded landscaping. If they had initially come out and said they want the taxpayers to fund the landscaping, everyone would have told them to go to hell. Instead they first got us all fighting over whether the boat basin should be turned into an amusement park and then they come in with a "solution" to all this fighting. It also helps to have some fake opposition "friends" go along with the dog and pony show.

Problem, Reaction, Solution. Oldest trick in the book.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this really taxpayer-funded landscaping? The Urban Renewal process lets the county use the increased property tax revenue coming from the increased real estate valuations (ie private developers' improvements within the district) to pay for public improvements within the Urban Renwal District (eg landscaping and other basin improvements).

So yeah, it's our tax dollars at work, but it's from taxes paid by Naito on the real estate and the buildings they erect on their property (as well as other developers going forward). I guess you could say that the county could otherwise use the tax revenues for schools or firemen, but the idea of Urban Renewal is to encourage private development (thus increasing tax revenues) by improving infrastucture that attracts and/or supports the development.

And most of us think that the public will benefit greatly from the basin improvements - not just Naitos and their cheesy motel-operating clients.

That said, I totally agree that the Naitos used this controversial cable park idea to slip what might have been a controversial hotel/office park development past the public. To that extent they played the kiting community supporters for suckers. Naitos met with these people way in advance of the announcement, got them fired up and organized, all while swearing them to secrecy until the announcement. Now the kiter supporters are waking up all alone with a roofie hangover feeling violated.

"Fake opposition"? Now that's just ridiculous. Do you live here, do you know these people? You think Naito is paying them or something? News flash- you don't need to hire fake opposition - just propose a dubious and
high-profile development and you'll have real opposition.

Oh, except for the Seven Streams clearcut. Now that's what we should be ashamed about . . .


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The friends were the "stalking horse"
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, except for the Seven Streams clearcut. Now that's what we should be ashamed about . . .


Yup!! A real tragedy!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgold wrote:
I think the cable park was a distraction. All they wanted was the hotel, and while everyone argued about the cable park, the hotel slipped in with hardly a comment.


I guess you're entitled to your opinion, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikephillips2011 wrote:
cgold wrote:
I think the cable park was a distraction. All they wanted was the hotel, and while everyone argued about the cable park, the hotel slipped in with hardly a comment.

You are 100% correct.

They always wanted a hotel surrounded with taxpayer funded landscaping. If they had initially come out and said they want the taxpayers to fund the landscaping, everyone would have told them to go to hell. Instead they first got us all fighting over whether the boat basin should be turned into an amusement park and then they come in with a "solution" to all this fighting. It also helps to have some fake opposition "friends" go along with the dog and pony show.

Problem, Reaction, Solution. Oldest trick in the book.


And neither do you

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