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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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WindDoggie...it was tough to watch. The bullshit was coming fast and furious, and Obama looked like a fawn in the headlights. My favorite two lines of the debate were, "My plan includes pre-exisiting conditions!", and "I LOVE COAL"!!!!!! |
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windoggi
Joined: 22 Feb 2002 Posts: 2743
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I saw Obama's performance in the debate as very calculated. He chose to let Mitt run his mouth unopposed. Let it get out there so the fact checkers could rip it to shreds. And they are. _________________ /w\ |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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"Mitt's debate team made good use of this."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
You're spot on windoggie. I had never heard of the Gish Gallop before, but there's no doubt in my mind now that that debating strategy was used by Romney. While I wasn't at all fooled by the steady stream of outright falsehoods Romney blurted out, seemingly the pundits and those judging the debate didn't really care. Apparently, it was about quantity, and it had nothing to do with quality. |
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mrgybe
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Since you were so quickly able to see through Romney's falsehoods, will you give us a few examples.........and perhaps explain why the President wasn't a quick as you? |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17748 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Boggsy--If you poke around and look for the numbers, which you can find here: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-the-jobs-report-looks-like-unskewed-2012-10 you can find that there has been an uptick in jobs, with a seasonal component, since 2010. So even with the housing meltdown, the economy was making a slow come back. In California, it looks like default/foreclosure numbers are back to the point where they are not a big drag on the economy any more. Of course this terrifies the righties--an actual recovery because of government action to prevent bank defaults and stimulate the economy? So they send out West and Welch to accuse Obama of conspiracy. It will appeal to the wing nut base.
I'm betting that Obama gets the baddies that killed the ambassador. |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Mac...CA real estate is on fire. Software spending is at RECORD highs, thanks to the cloud. Tech is hiring. If you X out construction, and GOVT, hiring is getting much better.
When Obama, and the Seals get the thugs that took out Chris Stephens, Jack Welch and Rick Santelli are going to call bullshit! |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17748 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Boggsy--Chris Steven's father was a Deputy Attorney General that I know well. It was a terrible thing, and on this one I'm rooting for the drones. It is an even worse thing to try to make political hay out of. |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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He was a great American hero, and a hero to many in the Bay Area, I have client who knew him well. |
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mrgybe
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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He wasn't protected adequately. Someone needs to be held accountable for that. |
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mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Windoggie
Where do you got those rosy glasses, I have to get myself a pair, do they make the ladies all look like Carmen Electra too?
I think your on to something their, out smart your enemy by losing. BRILLANT |
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