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speedysailor



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freemove can also refer to a type of bowel movement like >>bullsh't<< and>>horsesh't<<. I always found the >>Freerace Concept<< of Monty Spindler's Loft sails kind of funny, too. Not that I don't enjoy sailing my two large loft sails, but basically they are just big sails without camber inducers.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seedysailor wrote:
Freemove can also refer to a type of bowel movement...

Figures you'd bring that up, Mr. Swift.
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speedysailor



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, yes, Pueno, the expert on Freemove has to get his two cents in.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seedysailor wrote:
Ah, yes, Pueno, the expert on Freemove has to get his two cents in.

Not at all. I was acknowledging your expertise on bowel movements.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some windsurfers weigh over 300 lbs. That is a full on sinker.
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bubbalover



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zirtaeb wrote:
Some windsurfers weigh over 300 lbs. That is a full on sinker.


I sink my 150...

I thought about these boards, but they're freakin' WIDE. I think they work better as a thin man's light wind board than a fat man's high wind board.

Although an RRD video has Dave White pitching them, so who knows.

http://vimeo.com/48763547
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Between freestyle and freeride, it's sailing along doing moderate moves, like jumpjibes, duckjibes/tacks, willy's, nice turns, slashing...like what Isobars does.
Wide boards are never good for good small sailors. At 150 lbs., never a need for over 62cm except for winds lighter than 15. Wide boards are for bad small sailors or sailors looking to get their technique down for planing.
If 150 liters is a sinker, you weigh right around 280 lbs or more.
My old bud at 275, wearing a 4/3 wetsuit and booties, harness and hood, could uphaul the 133 liter Seatrend 9'5" in the surf impact zone, or anywhere in the bay, if he wanted to.
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bubbalover



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zirtaeb wrote:
Between freestyle and freeride, it's sailing along doing moderate moves, like jumpjibes, duckjibes/tacks, willy's, nice turns, slashing...like what Isobars does.
Wide boards are never good for good small sailors. At 150 lbs., never a need for over 62cm except for winds lighter than 15. Wide boards are for bad small sailors or sailors looking to get their technique down for planing.
If 150 liters is a sinker, you weigh right around 280 lbs or more.
My old bud at 275, wearing a 4/3 wetsuit and booties, harness and hood, could uphaul the 133 liter Seatrend 9'5" in the surf impact zone, or anywhere in the bay, if he wanted to.


293 as of Saturday. Went out Sunday on my 150, wind died and I actually uphauled, but my board was underwater by the time the boom was in my hands.

We big fellas usually have big, wide boards which work great until the chop gets crazy. I go down to a 38cm fin on the 150 and can hold it together in pretty nasty conditions. But I'm in the market for a Gorge board, something between 110-120L. The Firemove's seem good, but that width...I'm just not convinced they'll stick to the water. Until I sail one I'm withholding judgement.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

293 lbs., I'd look for much narrower, but 140-150 liters.
Narrow makes it thru the chop. Thickness floats.
Wide bounces in chop, and hard to keep a consistent rail down in jibes.
At 84 liters, my board is completely underwater by the time the clew clears, but that's life. I'm 150, and my board is floatier for me than yours is for you.
No production board is designed for someone your size, so you can only compromise.
For high winds, I'd take the FanaticShark over a fast freeride board any day. Shark is softer railed, easy to jibe, smooth, friendly, and very strong. It doesn't plane early for it's size, which is what you want in a high wind board.
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PeconicPuffin



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've seen Iso do any of those things? I believe you are attributing skills where they don't exist.

zirtaeb wrote:
Between freestyle and freeride, it's sailing along doing moderate moves, like jumpjibes, duckjibes/tacks, willy's, nice turns, slashing...like what Isobars does.

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