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crashpile



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Sensor at Viento State Park? Reply with quote

I'm new to windsurfing and the forums, but I was wondering if there is any plan for a sensor to be put at Viento State Park? The piling/river marker, #28 I think, would be a pretty good spot for a sensor. It seems like the wind varies from Stevenson to Swell and this is a good spot.
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drblanke



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viento would be great. Also Mosier and Celilo.
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johnl



Joined: 05 Jun 1994
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iwindsurf can clarify but I think part of the problem is a phone line. I don't believe one is available. But I could be wrong. This has been brought up before..
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AirTym



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:00 pm    Post subject: Viento sensor exists Reply with quote

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AirTym



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: Viento+ Reply with quote

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ldhr



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Viento is listed as "Experimental". I think it's extrapolated from adjacent readings and it's not a real sensor reading?????
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windfind



Joined: 18 Mar 1997
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gang,

Idhr is right the Viento blue "sensor" (see image below) is an extrapolation derived from nearby sensors and the models. In parts of the USA with no nearby topography these extrapolation sensors are very useful since the models are fairly accurate. Here in the Gorge the highest resolution model we use has grids 2KM on a side. That is around an order of magnitude higher resolution than the most powerful supercomputers could produce a decade ago... but it still means the models barely "see" the Gorge in their calculations.

In short don't expect much from these extrapolation sensors here in the Gorge at least in the corridor. Along the coast and perhaps way out east them may be useful.

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AirTym



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Blue Sites Reply with quote

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Waterlou



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with having a Mosier sensor is where to put it.
If it is at the launch, even at the tip end of the launch, it wouldn't tell anyone what is actually happening on the water because the wind is always on the other side of the river.
If it was on the other side of the river, it wouldn't be accurate either because the other side of the river is often a bit of a wind hole too, and sometimes pretty hard to get to if the wind is blowing over there.
Plus, there is usually a full house in the parking anyway, when the wind is blowing, with just the locals that regularly sail there.
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westender



Joined: 02 Aug 2007
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Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time you'd need a sensor at Viento is when it's not blowing at Stevenson or Swell. It can be the only place.
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