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pe4387



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: RS:X sues ISAF Reply with quote

RS:X has launched a suit against the ISAF. Here is an excellent press release showing multiple reasons this is wrong:

http://www.rsxclass.com/download/PressRelease_JudicialReview.pdf

If you have not please vote for windsurfing. USA windsurfers should not let US Sailing off the hook. Write an email to them. Vote.

Ned
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dvCali



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: RS:X sues ISAF Reply with quote

pe4387 wrote:
RS:X has launched a suit against the ISAF. Here is an excellent press release showing multiple reasons this is wrong:

http://www.rsxclass.com/download/PressRelease_JudicialReview.pdf

If you have not please vote for windsurfing. USA windsurfers should not let US Sailing off the hook. Write an email to them. Vote.

Ned

Good for them (and us). It is about time to stop appeasing the Kite industry.
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windchamp2



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: RS:X sues ISAF Reply with quote

stay classy rsx!
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spennie



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that was well written and very interesting! NOT being sarcastic, check it out!

I personally have no problem with kiting, or the vast majority of kiters, who have been almost universally friendly and respectful of the rules. But to oust windsurfing just because kiting is "the new thing" that people are talking about is just wrong, especially when you read that document.

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human_catapult



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is interesting because the company that manufactures the RS:X (JP/NP, whatever they call themselves), also owns kiteboarding brands that could also benefit from the change. I guess if they own the class vessel, it's better than the open competition it seems that the kitesurfers have been given for their olympic class.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should be about youth sports and introduction of the youth to sailing. You'd have to be crazy to put your 12 year old son on a kite. As it has evolved, kiting isn't as related to sailing as windsurfing is. Another key issue (not related to this) is loss of access to sailing sites due to perceived kiting dangers.

In the 1st decade of windsurfing, there was similar bravado and chest beating that is demonstrated by kiters today. In contrast to your opinion Spennie, I see alot of outrageous behavior by kiters. It is the fringe as usual, but you just don't see much of this in windsurfing any more.

Our sport needs youth participation now. It is our only advantage over kiting. It is our future. We need the olympics.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screw the Olympics.
Does any sport attract more kids than trick skateboarding?
Is it in the Olympics?
BMX racing IS. But most kids like freestyle biking.
NP/JP/Cabrina can easily produce a Slab copy of course kiteboards that can be adopted as the standard.
Ever sail an RSX? Total pig that won't hold up after 30 practice sessions.
What sport is more popular to young adults and kids than surfing?
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KevinDo



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zirtaeb wrote:
Screw the Olympics.
Does any sport attract more kids than trick skateboarding?
Is it in the Olympics?
BMX racing IS. But most kids like freestyle biking.
NP/JP/Cabrina can easily produce a Slab copy of course kiteboards that can be adopted as the standard.
Ever sail an RSX? Total pig that won't hold up after 30 practice sessions.
What sport is more popular to young adults and kids than surfing?


I have never sailed an RSX, how is it? Only one design I've ever used was the techno and I love it Very Happy
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically impossible to create ONE board design to fit everywhere and everyone, so why try?
Instead, wind speed should be the criteria. Bring what you want, limit it to 1, 2, or 3 boards, same # of sails, and scramble them.
RSX sails fine. It's too heavy, centerboard well has problems, finbox has problems, track has probems, and it dings easily....for an incredible price of about a Formula board, + custom rig.
Techno 148, or was it 152, was fine. For small riders. About 1998 technology, able to keep up with 1998 course boards.
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kipps



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

human_catapult wrote:
This is interesting because the company that manufactures the RS:X (JP/NP, whatever they call themselves), also owns kiteboarding brands that could also benefit from the change. I guess if they own the class vessel, it's better than the open competition it seems that the kitesurfers have been given for their olympic class.


BINGO!

this is really more about RS:X (or rather, the money behind the class) trying to protect its commercial interests than about protecting the sport of windsurfing… in fact, windsurfing would be better off if it were represented by an umbrella organization for the sport than by a one-design class that is more intent in playing politics to the detriment of the sport.

in voting for kiting, ISAF gave up on a) very low wind minima; b) 'one design' in favour of a box rule + quiver; and c) pretense of low cost… i see an opportunity here for windsurfing (not RS:X) to get back under the same 'terms' kiting got: possibly a combo quiver of 1 formula board/1 sail for 8-18 knots and 1 slalom board/2 sails for winds >18 knots…
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