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bajaDean



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003638361

Study Finds Conservatives Rule Op-Ed pages -- With George Will as King

By Dave Bauder

Published: September 11, 2007 3:05 PM ET
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NEW YORK George Will's column runs in more newspapers than any writer in the nation, according to a new study by a liberal media watchdog group that concludes conservative voices such as his dominate editorial pages.

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Will's syndicated column runs at least once a month in 368 newspapers with more than 26 million in total circulation, said the Media Matters for America. The organization surveyed 96 percent of the nation's 1,430 English-language daily newspapers.

"He reaches half of the newspaper readers in America," said Paul Waldman, the study's author. "He has a huge megaphone, probably bigger than anybody else in America."

His group found that 60 percent of the daily newspapers print more conservative syndicated columnists each week than liberals. Twenty percent of the papers are dominated by liberals and 20 percent are balanced. Media Matters had no information on local columnists.
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Both Will and Shearer said they believe that Media Matters is right, that conservative columnists have a wider reach than liberals. It may partly be because publishers lean conservative, and editorial page editors often report to them, Shearer said.


I have many more links and sources should you like more verification....

But I would like to see some of what you have is anything...
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox is the Rights mouthpiece because there is money in it.
Money.
Newspaper are mostly centrist because their reader base is shrinking and that is perceived as bringing the widest audience to buy advertisers products.
Fox will hire either Lester Maddoxs zombie or Rachel Maddox at any moment if they thought there was money in it.
Same for every money losing media outlet, which is why there is Talk Radio.
Excuse me. I meant -The same for ANY media outlet.
Murdoch himself runs many mainstrean news outlets and uses the same stories but tells them different.
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bajaDean



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the most disturbing analogy over the entire thing that i clearly see because of the defense contractor and right wing ownership of the media with not one partisan liberal controlling any radio or tv media.

Liberals raise whatever they can to get the message out in the form of commercials. And who do we give our money too but right wing owned media. And these right wing owned companies take it and spend it on more right wing propaganda.

As a side note, ever see those Hi I am doctor deep and I get this oil out of the ground so my mother can drive to buy her food. Or the hi I Dr so and so researcher am researching the next cure for my mothers big toe disease. Note they will flood us with these ads about election time, even more than political ads. These ads by the oil and healthcare pharma drug companies do not count as political ads. Same with the drug company one, nothing there to make you switch, just right wing political propaganda. But I say hogwash. These ads are not to get you to switch from shell oil to BP. they are politically motivated but do not count because they are not mentioning a candidate. They spend huge sums on these. Remember the one against the clintons the year they were elected, Ozzie and harriet saying they do not want government in their decisions,. This was pidley money for the healthcare industry but just in those adds they spent almost as much as it cost to get elected for president in that election cycle. a drop in the bucket to them for that. Again not counted as political.

as we have heard just one righty person in the upcoming election cycle is saying he is going to put in more than half of the total that the dems will raise. Again that is just one guy with oil interests. That is how much money these corporations have and have always used in more discrete ways. it is just now the citizens united has made it possible that corps can do unlimited and name a candidate.


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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This didn't quite ring true when it was posted, but it took me a while to remember how we got there:


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A big thank you to the Administration for helping out the poor folks. Those heartless tea party people must be crazy for trying to cut government spending

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjAjAvxDkfk&feature=share


In keeping with his general pattern of being thoughtful, techno did a little research that turned up the 1996 Act--well before Obama, you think?---but that really wasn't the genesis of this program. The idea of subsidizing one group of users with another was in fact a business practice of AT &T, and the genesis of phone programs was the settlement agreement of the anti-trust litigation which resulted in the break-up of AT &T--in 1982. At that time, we all had land lines. A little background:

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In 1982, AT&T and the Department of Justice settled the antitrust case against AT&T. AT&T agreed to break itself up into several firms in 1984. One firm, AT&T, provided long-distance service, and seven other firms ("Baby Bells") provided local telephone service in different regions. The Department of Justice apparently felt that a vertically integrated telephone company, one that provided local and long-distance service, was not required for productive efficiency, or that there were other offsetting gains from the divestiture.

According to the Department of Justice, the vertical structure of the company provided an opportunity for unfair competition against other providers of long-distance service. For example, by charging high local rates or by providing poor local service to other providers of long-distance service (which require local service), AT&T could harm long-distance competitors. Another concern of the Department of Justice was the difficulty of monitoring cost-shifting among AT&T's regulated (telephone) and other relatively unregulated businesses (such as the manufacture of telephones and other equipment). The resulting breakup of the telephone company presumably mitigated the government's concerns.


A nice pithy quote from http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id310.htm captures the magnitude of the stakes at the time:

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It was a battle of giants, with the federal government taking on American Telephone & Telegraph, the world's largest corporation with assets valued at $125 billion, which made it bigger than U.S. Steel, General Motors and Exxon combined. The second largest employer in the nation -- the federal government was the first -- AT&T employed over one million people. It had three million stockholders, the most of any American company. It made a daily profit of $15 million, using 1.7 million miles of wires, cable and circuitry to handle 600 million calls a day. AT&T was a federally regulated "authorized" monopoly, providing 80 percent of U.S. telephone service, but in 1974 the Justice Department filed an antitrust suit against Ma Bell, accusing it of forcing operating companies to purchase equipment from its Western Electric subsidiary, of undercutting competitors' prices, and of obstructing a 1968 Federal Communications Commission (FCC) ruling that customers could connect non-Bell equipment to phone lines.


Now there are legitimate criticisms of settling anti-trust concerns (during the Reagan administration, to be sure) with an agreement that is not dynamic, when the communications industry was just on the cusp of a dramatic transformation. There are equally valid conservative concerns about the FCC and Congress trying to fix these concerns with the 1996 legislation--still in the middle of a dramatic period of change in communications. I tend to favor economic incentives and disincentives in-lieu of regulation where such an approach would be more flexible and equally or more effective. But I don't get to make these decisions--and Obama did not either.

So you have a 1996 legislative requirement, stemming from at 1982 anti-trust settlement blamed on Obama. It is not a surprise that such blame comes from a commentor quick to think the worst of those who disagree with him politically, and inept at fact finding. Such is the anger that drives the conservatives--anger over the wrong things, fed by organizations like Crossroads and passed on by those who think the worst of all to the left of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walker was one of the leading supporters of increasing voucher programs and reducing funding for public schools. How well is it working?

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2013-15 Budget Issue Paper
Recent Research and the Milwaukee Parental Choice Program
[LFB 2013-15 Budget Summary: Pages 372-374 #3; page 375 #6]
Recently, three peer-reviewed articles examining the performance of the Wisconsin taxpayer funded school voucher program known as the Milwaukee Parental Choice Program (MPCP) have been released using data from the legislatively mandated evaluation of the MPCP program.1
These peer-reviewed articles find that:
Poor, minority, low achieving students are much more likely to leave MPCP, and much more likely to do so when they attend private schools with a larger proportion of voucher recipients.2
Levels of parental satisfaction between MPCP and Milwaukee Public Schools (MPS) are equal. 2
Parental dissatisfaction was the most common reason cited by parents for students leaving the MPCP program (24% of respondents).2
Inadequate handling of the special needs of students was the second most common reason (11% of respondents) for students leaving MPCP.2
When students, who represent the most disadvantaged population, do exit MPCP and return to MPS they show substantial achievement gains, even though they often choose to return to lower-performing MPS schools.3
The mandatory testing of students in choice programs is the leading driver in achievement gains observed in the choice program.
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Holding schools participating in the choice programs accountable is a key strategy in increasing the performance of publicly funded choice schools across more diverse student outcomes.4


http://news.dpi.wi.gov/files/eis/pdf/vrsch.pdf

Even Bill Gates now seems to agree that there are no simple solutions to the complex problems of school performance. But I'm sure that we will get dissenting views from the fact free world, offered by those who are so much more accomplished than the rest of us barbarians.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember getting paddled when I goofed around in public school. How about fining parents or cutting their welfare benefits if the student doesn't maintain a C average, or is truant? My son had his cell phone taken away by his Chemistry teacher for a few days. That seemed to work well.

We need to stop coddling students and make them ashamed of receiving a D or F, for failure to hand in homework or behavior issues. We need to make parents responsible for their students truancy and study habits.

This is a free education. Even in the most blighted schools, some students make it to Harvard. This is not about IQ, but about parents. Parents need to be made accountable.

I say that any parent who's student has less than a B average, should attend a class on parenting and basic study habits. This could take place in lieu of the bi-annual parent teacher night, so that it wouldn't cost taxpayers any additional money.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
I remember getting paddled when I goofed around in public school. How about fining parents or cutting their welfare benefits if the student doesn't maintain a C average, or is truant? My son had his cell phone taken away by his Chemistry teacher for a few days. That seemed to work well.

We need to stop coddling students and make them ashamed of receiving a D or F, for failure to hand in homework or behavior issues. We need to make parents responsible for their students truancy and study habits.

This is a free education. Even in the most blighted schools, some students make it to Harvard. This is not about IQ, but about parents. Parents need to be made accountable.

I say that any parent who's student has less than a B average, should attend a class on parenting and basic study habits. This could take place in lieu of the bi-annual parent teacher night, so that it wouldn't cost taxpayers any additional money.

I agree 1000% with your thinking on this, Mr. B. Unfortunately, in the mindset of today's litigious society, your son's chem teacher could end up in court (and without career) for a long list of infractions. The teacher who paddled you or the nun who whacked my knuckles with a ruler would be in very deep doo-doo today.

The problem IS the parents -- or lack of parents. Maybe we should say it's the lack of parenting.

What's different between parenting 50-75 years ago and parenting today?

"How about fining parents or cutting their welfare benefits if the student doesn't maintain a C average, or is truant?"

Yes, fundamentally a good thought on one level, but on another level this is a bit like saying, "The beatings will continue until morale improves."

We need to think of effective ways to motivate parents without using an even bigger stick. Some of those parents have already been beaten bloody.

Also...... keep in mind that a "C" grade is average. Not good, but also not bad. Today, every student expects an A for just showing up. How can that expectation be changed?

The real question is, how can our teachers truly inspire students to want to study and explore?
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GURGLETROUSERS



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent post Pueno - nail on head!

The non-judgemental society in which the individual no longer takes responsibily for his/her actions, (rights come first), reaps what it sows.

But we can always blame the teachers.
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pueno--your last line says it all. Even the market oriented Gates foundation has realized that going to war with teachers is not the best way to get them to be inspirational.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will always be excellent teachers, average teachers and poor teachers, that will never change. Excellent teachers can motivate some students to reach for something better, but not many get this opportunity.

Reality - It's a mind set of the parents/family that makes the difference. Going to college was the expectation, the norm, my job, my obligation, and not going was never a consideration. My parent were to blame for this and it worked.

Unquestioned obedience and respect for my parents, schools and teachers was ingrained (fear too - I got paddled twice), so you did what needed to be done. I was lucky, many are not.
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