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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Oregon coast part 2 Reply with quote

We are staying out at a condo on glenden beach (lincoln city) next week (20-27) and I want to definitely bring some gear to play on. Im better than last year and can play in the river in just about any conditions. Gear space is limited so I was looking for advice on what to take. I have 4.0,4.5,5.3,5.7,6.8 and all are wave sails, I would like to trim it down to 2-3. Im definitely taking the 95L quatro FSW, but should I bring my 139L Freeride too or is it too big to be useable (keep in mind that im 190lb and can ride the 139 in 30mph wind in the gorge), I also have the Logosz spoon at around 85L and an old poly trifin wave board at around 90L. If its too intense I might just go to siletz bay or somewhere similar, but id like to get a taste of the waves.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Oregon wave experience is limited to Florence, FaceRock, Floras, GoldBeach, and the Cape.
When the fog clears, it can be 4.0 conditions for you (smaller for me), but normal conditions, if such an animal exists, is 4.7 for you, 4.2 for me.
I've used my 5.3 in the Cape over 8 days.
Bring everything you can, hope you have the right gear with you.
Bring all your FSW fins.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen the OR coast at daytime air temps from 45 to >100 degrees, with winds from zero to solid all-day 2.8 conditions and water temps from mid 50s to mid 40s ... and that's just in midsummer from Florence north. If your objective is maximum sailing time, take a wide range of gear. You might bias your choices towards the forecasts just before you leave, but don't take them too seriously.

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H2OJoe



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your FSW 95 and the 5.3, 5.7 & 6.8. The central and northern coast doesn't get as windy as farther south (Gold Beach, etc). The bigger board will get you out on the water but won't perform very well on the wave. If you're happy to just be ripping around, take it. Have a great trip!
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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still consider my 95 to be a little board, but it seems to be growing lately Laughing I have a RRD 85 wave but its a bit tough to get on a plane at my size and its 10 years older than my 95. Ill be happy to just get wet and get back in one piece Very Happy For what its worth the forecast is sunny and low 70's.

I dont need to get the most time on the water possible, but id like to be prepared for when conditions are nice. Ive never lived near the ocean so I dont have a lot of exprience with the waves. Is there a direct link between wind and wave size like in the gorge or can the wind be high and the waves low and the other way around?Ideally id like small 2-3 foot mushy waves and 4.5 winds, but that seems unlikely Laughing
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ldhr



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, maybe check the NOAA forecast the day before you leave and pack accordingly?
The forecast will give you both wind and wave sizes.
No link between wind and wave size.
For beginner wave sailors - you'll want the most wind and smallest waves.
Also - if you do go out you want to be powered, not slogging, so rig on the big side.
Keep in mind that a it takes 25 mph at the coast to feel like 20 in the gorge.
There's no current in the ocean, the wind will require a sail size bigger than what you would rig in the gorge.
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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ldhr wrote:
Uh, maybe check the NOAA forecast the day before you leave and pack accordingly?
The forecast will give you both wind and wave sizes.
No link between wind and wave size.
For beginner wave sailors - you'll want the most wind and smallest waves.
Also - if you do go out you want to be powered, not slogging, so rig on the big side.
Keep in mind that a it takes 25 mph at the coast to feel like 20 in the gorge.
There's no current in the ocean, the wind will require a sail size bigger than what you would rig in the gorge.

Ill definitely check the forecasts, but I have no experience there so correlating what the forecast says to the real conditions could be hard. Good to hear that waves/wind dont necessarily correlate.
I always rig big so that shouldnt be a problem Very Happy
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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
I've seen the OR coast at daytime air temps from 45 to >100 degrees, with winds from zero to solid all-day 2.8 conditions and water temps from mid 50s to mid 40s ... and that's just in midsummer from Florence north. If your objective is maximum sailing time, take a wide range of gear. You might bias your choices towards the forecasts just before you leave, but don't take them too seriously.

Are the forcasts ,on say windfinder, generally close to the wind speed or is it like many places where 15mph means 25 on the water
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hilton08



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bring the 4.5, 5.3, and 5.7 sails with the 95 liter board for the ocean. It rarely blows enough for the 4.0 on the central/north coast. (Pistol River and Winter storms are a different story.)
If there is room, bring the 6.8 sail and 139 liter board for flatwater or tiny waves, but you are asking for trouble if you take the bigger gear out in light winds and medium to large surf.
Don't forget a sweatshirt and full wetsuit. Even if it is 100 degrees in the Gorge, the coast will still be cool and the water will be cold.
A surfboard or SUP is also a good idea since the wind doesn't usually pick up until the afternoon.
Check out roads end park in lincoln city (north of the casino) if you want other people to sail with or kiters to watch.
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thomas_tlusty



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hilton08 wrote:
I would bring the 4.5, 5.3, and 5.7 sails with the 95 liter board for the ocean.


Sounds right to me. The wind will seem squirrely and wierd compared to the gorge, especially around the impact zone, so rig a size bigger than what you would rig in the gorge. Also, don't sail anywhere with rocks downwind, the southbound current will have you downwind faster than you would believe unless you are well powered up (until you know the tricks to staying upwind).

If you haven't already, join the PDXWindsurfer yahoo group and read the Oregon Coast Wavesailing Guide they have in the files section. Full of good advice from coast regulars, it got me through my first few times on the coast.
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