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beaglebuddy
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Those conditions sound pretty nice and interesting how the wind can come from so many different directions. |
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fathomfathom
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: 110lb. fast learner |
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| Spyski wrote: | What kind of board would you guys recommend for fast learner beginner who is 110lbs on light wind days?
-5-10 knot light wind
-SPEED!!!
Do you also recommend buying new or used?
Thanks |
5-10 knots, you're not going to be planning, so look for displacement windsurfing (SB Serenity is great but it's very tippy for a beginner).
However at 110lbs as you progress you'll be planning much earlier than the average 160lbs+ windsurfer.
On the previous post, people were mentioning the Sailworks Retro, I personally really like it in light wind. You have a 'meh' for BIC but put the Bic Nova (plush EVA deck and old BIC Formula shape) and add a big racing fin and you'll be going much faster than windspeed in light wind.
I weight around 130-140lbs, and Retro +Nova gets me going without pumping in about 11-12 knots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThgTKTFAY1I |
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Spyski
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Gulf Coast
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everybody for taking the time with all your replies!
Great to hear Pensacola has a windsurfing community and most of all WIND.
I've been trying to look around for used boards. I've noticed swap meets are a good way in finding used gear, but the nearest meets are in TX. Can anybody recommend a good used gear (specifically boards) website? |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 11486
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely: Windance.
Honest condition ratings, wide selection, cheap shipping, and they will run a webcam over a board live with you on the phone so you can inspect every inch.
I'm a very satisfied customer with no connection to Windance. Go to Windance > Consignment > Used windsurf boards.
I've also been very happy with Big Winds used boards and advice.
Mike \m/ |
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jingebritsen
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sergio_k
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 43
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Spyski wrote: | Thanks everybody for taking the time with all your replies!
Great to hear Pensacola has a windsurfing community and most of all WIND.
I've been trying to look around for used boards. I've noticed swap meets are a good way in finding used gear, but the nearest meets are in TX. Can anybody recommend a good used gear (specifically boards) website? |
I scanned over the replies, maybe missed something but didn't see and advice based on experience light weight/light wind...
If you want to plane (based on your speed request), and your weight,
the best choice is modern (1-3 year old design) slalom board,
80-85 cm width, 117W Isonic would be ideal, you'll have to match it with
8-8.5 m2 race sail, all carbon rig, and good race fin (~46-50cm),
that would get you planning starting >7.5 knots with good technique,
formula board could buy you extra 1 knot with 9-9.5 m2 sail.
Before you buy race toys, I'd recommend to get comfy in footstraps/harness on something more durable like Bic techno.
Read, this one response about formula SF guys and not able to plain on FW in anything under 11mph- that's bull***, 10m2 is my biggest sail, I
can plane in 6-7kn breezes on FW (weight 135lb) |
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zirtaeb
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1768
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry, when you get some experience windsurfing, you will realize the folly of your dreams.
I"ve been shortboarding for 29 years...that's under 100 liter boards. Been racing for years 3-9, regional sponsorships, and currently rig with at least 3 of the top 10 US Formula windsurfers. The bi weekly CalCup races are held where I rig, in Berkeley. Some of the lighter sailors CAN plane in around 10, but she might weigh only 125 lbs., uses a 10.7 in that breeze, and is the only person out in the water.
I seriously doubt if you can plane at what you say. But if you can, you should try racing. Even Formula racing, using 11 meter sails, don't race if the winds are gusting under 20, or the average is less than 15, because there will be dead spots of under 10, or less, which nobody can plane through. |
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sergio_k
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 43
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| zirtaeb wrote: | Don't worry, when you get some experience windsurfing, you will realize the folly of your dreams.
I"ve been shortboarding for 29 years...that's under 100 liter boards. Been racing for years 3-9, regional sponsorships, and currently rig with at least 3 of the top 10 US Formula windsurfers. The bi weekly CalCup races are held where I rig, in Berkeley. Some of the lighter sailors CAN plane in around 10, but she might weigh only 125 lbs., uses a 10.7 in that breeze, and is the only person out in the water.
I seriously doubt if you can plane at what you say. But if you can, you should try racing. Even Formula racing, using 11 meter sails, don't race if the winds are gusting under 20, or the average is less than 15, because there will be dead spots of under 10, or less, which nobody can plane through. |
I do race locally but just for fun, in Miami, and some of your guys from SF
do come out and race with us in the winter time, SF is a totally diff FW racing, for us 6-10 knots is the norm, If I could't plane in those conditions i'd have to give up windsurfing
around 15 knots, if I don't have to race FW I'm already on my slalom rig,
ML custom slalom 100+l 73cm wide+8.5 m2 actually gets me going around 9-10 knots... Come out here this winter, we'll show you how to plane in light winds  |
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zirtaeb
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1768
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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73 wide and 8.5 convinces me you are right.
Maybe we're spoiled out here. Then again, the new wider Starboard Formula is winning every race.
Strange thing. I"m 150 lbs., and 100 liter 58 wide slalom board with a 6.5 planes up just about as early as the 200lbs'ers on their 10.5 sails on Slab L-12's. That would be around 12-16mph. That's 200lbs'er who don't seem to pump or get active. |
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sergio_k
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 43
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| zirtaeb wrote: | 73 wide and 8.5 convinces me you are right.
Maybe we're spoiled out here. Then again, the new wider Starboard Formula is winning every race.
Strange thing. I"m 150 lbs., and 100 liter 58 wide slalom board with a 6.5 planes up just about as early as the 200lbs'ers on their 10.5 sails on Slab L-12's. That would be around 12-16mph. That's 200lbs'er who don't seem to pump or get active. |
Since I never lived in high wind place, I had to adopt, pumping is definitely a key to early planning and even how you pump, I have a custom fw that Mike Z made for me 4+ years ago, and about year ago, one of the foot strap plugs pulled out out of the board, while I was asking him
how best to repair it, I explain how I use by back foot already in foot strap do initiate planing, which of course added additional stress in that area,
he told me in SF, he never even considered that type of pumping.
Another thing, I think you guys are tuning your gear in expectation for real high gusts, we don't have to do it... I tune my FW 90% of the time for light wind, big fin (76-78 cut), mast track back, minimal downhaul,etc... |
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