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jse
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 Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: Switch Stance question |
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I'm having trouble planing switch stance. I can duck gybe and sail away for a few seconds with my front foot still in the original strap, my back foot just in front of the back strap. I'm fully planing, trying to get comfortable, beginning to think about putting my back foot in the strap and BOOM! over the front. Any tips would be helpful.
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isobars
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Switch Stance question |
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| jse wrote: | | I'm having trouble planing switch stance. I can duck gybe and sail away for a few seconds with my front foot still in the original strap, my back foot just in front of the back strap. I'm fully planing, trying to get comfortable, beginning to think about putting my back foot in the strap and BOOM! over the front. Any tips would be helpful. |
I'm not clear on your question. When you're trying to put your back foot in its strap, where's the front foot ... now out of its original strap or still stuck in it? And which back foot are you talking about ... the old back foot or the new back foot? After all, that old front foot is now the new back foot unless you plan to ruin switch stance strapped in for the next reach. My head's reeling ... 
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VinceSF
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Switch Stance question |
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| jse wrote: | I'm having trouble planing switch stance. I can duck gybe and sail away for a few seconds with my front foot still in the original strap, my back foot just in front of the back strap. I'm fully planing, trying to get comfortable, beginning to think about putting my back foot in the strap and BOOM! over the front. Any tips would be helpful.
Steve |
No tips from me, but I am slowly getting a bit more comfortable switch stance, so next time we're both out sailing, I'll try to sail by you. I believe it is all about placing the body over the board.
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jse
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Switch Stance question |
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| isobars wrote: | | jse wrote: | | I'm having trouble planing switch stance. I can duck gybe and sail away for a few seconds with my front foot still in the original strap, my back foot just in front of the back strap. I'm fully planing, trying to get comfortable, beginning to think about putting my back foot in the strap and BOOM! over the front. Any tips would be helpful. |
I'm not clear on your question. When you're trying to put your back foot in its strap, where's the front foot ... now out of its original strap or still stuck in it? And which back foot are you talking about ... the old back foot or the new back foot? After all, that old front foot is now the new back foot unless you plan to ruin switch stance strapped in for the next reach. My head's reeling ...
Mike \m/ |
Picture this: You do a wide-sweeping gybe, either duck or regular, planing all the way through it, but leave your front foot in the original strap. When you sail away in the other direction, you pick up your back foot and move it into the back strap, but in the opposite direction of how it would normally point. Now you're sailing switch. I suppose you don't even need to take your back foot out of the strap if your intent is to sail away switch, but eventually, I would like to transition to switch without gybing. So simplifying the footwork is not a goal of mine.
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30knotwind
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Stay in both straps throughout the jibe. I do this on all wave jibes for better surfing, e.g. quicker transition from one tack to the next makes sailing short waves, e.g. Gorge, easier and more fun. You may need to loosen your straps: mine are as big as I can get them because I don't do aerials or speed. I also keep them as far forward as possible, which helps stay on a plane at slower speeds.
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jse
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| 30knotwind wrote: | Stay in both straps throughout the jibe. I do this on all wave jibes for better surfing, e.g. quicker transition from one tack to the next makes sailing short waves, e.g. Gorge, easier and more fun. You may need to loosen your straps: mine are as big as I can get them because I don't do aerials or speed. I also keep them as far forward as possible, which helps stay on a plane at slower speeds.
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Do you even flip your sail when you do this on waves or are you just doing linked turns without gybing? I've seen videos of swell riders in the gorge do this.
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30knotwind
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| jse wrote: |
Do you even flip your sail when you do this on waves or are you just doing linked turns without gybing? I've seen videos of swell riders in the gorge do this.
Steve |
You can do either. To me, jibes feel more stable and easier to stay on a plane with both feet in around the turn because you can lean forward and 'pull' up on the backfoot, which keeps the board flat and planing. Duck jibing with both feet strapped on smooth flatwater at the Hatchery is super fun on a light wind day.
No jibe, i.e. backwiinded-switch-swell riding, takes a bit more skill--I'm still trying to master that. Pay attention and you'll see both styles in this video, http://windnotes.phanfare.com/4743675_5825871
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The first jibe in this video is exactly what we are talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-YX6ugLyv0
(I copied this from someone a while ago but couldn't find it again. If it is yours, let me know if you want me to take it down, I am only using it to explain my point. thx)
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That's my video, and if you'll notice the second jibe (which is a long swell
ride) is also switch stance, until the very end of the swell ride. I do have
my back foot out of the strap, but the front stays strapped the entire time.
It's a public video, so you're welcome to do whatever you want with it.
-Craig
| 30knotwind wrote: | The first jibe in this video is exactly what we are talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-YX6ugLyv0
(I copied this from someone a while ago but couldn't find it again. If it is yours, let me know if you want me to take it down, I am only using it to explain my point. thx)
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zirtaeb
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You know I don't freestyle.
But I've watched as EVERY freestyler around Berkeley pratices swith from the dock slogging thru the wind zone and slowly getting onto a plane.
Keep weight OFF your front foot in planing conditions. Need weight back. |
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