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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"FAIR seeks a moratorium on immigration by anyone other than refugees and the spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens....
The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies FAIR as a hate group."

After you read his reference you may feel like you need a shower. This group was formed long ago to stop LEGAL immigration into the US. Outright hatred of ALL foreigners is a forgotten element of racism in this country but this far right group has been keeping it alive.
It would seem from the study that they had to invent a lot of documents since the undocumented aliens didn't have any, but the group came up with a pile...
Why does Iso embarrass himself with this extremist nonsense?
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgybe said

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The inconvenient fact that I did not mention choirboys or your fear of them in any of my posts does not strengthen that line of argument



about his earlier comment (referencing a video of a choir)

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What possible political correctness is breached by Christians singing of a metaphorical battle against Satan and his "armies"? If that causes you to be fearful, I'm surprised you ever leave the house


Semantics.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker wrote:
The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies FAIR as a hate group."


So? The far left classifies the right 2/3 of the country as a hate group, and the people in my killfile proved themselves a hate group. In the immortal words of our vice-president ... BFD.

Got better numbers? Hell, Los Angeles all by itself gives illegal aliens' kids alone $600,000,000 according to Los Angeles.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...the people in my killfile proved themselves a hate group."


Now that's total BS, and all of us know that. I'd invite anyone to argue otherwise. isobars is a hate group in himself. One only has to read his sad comments over time. Unfortunately, many many thousands to date.
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker got it right--"After you read his reference you may feel like you need a shower". Iso was born in Alabama--is that why he thinks the Southern Poverty Law Center is extreme? Groups like FAIR are around just to show you that there people even more creepy than Iso. Study the Know Nothings--theyyyyyyyyre back.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. Sad
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
mrgybe, quite often here your comments can carry quite an edge, with the goal being criticizing the target party or group in a negative way, however cleverly it's delivered.


I take that as a compliment. Robust, but respectful debate should be a vital element of our society. Unfortunately. that type of exchange is disappearing............honest differences of opinion are too often characterized as bigotry, racism or hatred. Christopher Hitchens is a great example of this.......I absolutely reject his view of life (atheistic), but I greatly respect his intellect, his humor, and his ability to express himself in an articulate and persuasive manner. I have no doubt that I would enjoy his company despite the fundamental differences in our beliefs. I truly hope that he beats his cancer........and has time to realize the error of his views!!...........and since he and I have walked the same hallowed halls of learning, I firmly believe that the would say the same thing. Holding opposing views doesn't mean that either party is a fool or a bigot.
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feuser



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgybe wrote:

I take that as a compliment. Robust, but respectful debate should be a vital element of our society. Unfortunately. that type of exchange is disappearing............


Well, then let's keep condescension out of the debate, as well:

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... As for the rest of your post..........I've educated you on many things; the positives of religion would simply take too long. You'll have to be content with worshiping your heroes, Soros, Maher and the S&P.

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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

feuser wrote:
mrgybe wrote:

I take that as a compliment. Robust, but respectful debate should be a vital element of our society. Unfortunately. that type of exchange is disappearing............


Well, then let's keep condescension out of the debate, as well:

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... As for the rest of your post..........I've educated you on many things; the positives of religion would simply take too long. You'll have to be content with worshiping your heroes, Soros, Maher and the S&P.

Many of my windsurf buddies are Londoners....so I am quite used the condescension. Its in their blood, and I view it as a concession speech.
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

feuser wrote:
Well, then let's keep condescension out of the debate, as well:


Condescension is a show of disdain and superiority in which the condescending person considers himself superior............that is quite different from actually being superior!!
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